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guide me [message #31305] Sat, 24 December 2005 00:34 Go to next message
  TRUTHseeKER  is currently offline TRUTHseeKER
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ASSALAMUALAIKUM
i've visited 19.org and free-minds a lot of times. Your theory that Hadith should be ignored because it was compiled 200 years after the death of the Prophet (PBUH) is logical, however, i find some drawbacks in this approach.
for example, there are some hadith whose truth can't be debated about, they are reported by many many people, so they can't be wrong. besides this encourages a hostile attitude towards the sayings of the PROPHET (PBUH). ok maybe some hadith are fabricated maybe 10 per cent.......maybe 20-30 percent but it's not possible that ALL of the hadith are fabricated. and yet i find people makin fun of sayings of the PROPHET (pbuh) which might even be true.
besides, Quran mentions that we should say salaat...how would we know the meaning of "salaat" if it weren't for hadith...for "salaat" did not literally mean prayers in the time of the PROPHET (PBUH). so without hadith u would not know what salaat is.
besides, how would you know how to perform salaat if it weren't for hadith.
in a nutshell, disimissing every hadith is not wise, because they are some ahadith which are surely authentic because they have been reported by many, many people. the hadith compilers took great pains, especially bukhari and muslim, to make sure that the ahadith were authentic.
i don't mean to object. i just want light. please guide me if you think im wrong.
ASSALAMUALAIKUM
Re: guide me [message #31319 is a reply to message #31305 ] Sat, 24 December 2005 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
  Edip Yuksel  is currently offline Edip Yuksel
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Dear TruthSeeker:

Please read the article titled "Why Trash all Hadith", published at:

www.islamicreform.org

Peace,
Edip


Edip Yuksel; J.D.
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Re: guide me [message #31357 is a reply to message #31319 ] Tue, 27 December 2005 09:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ASSALAMUALAIKUM
dear edip,
if you have time...plz read this page
http://thetruereligion.org/modules/ipboard/index.php?showtop ic=1048


and refer to me any article that you think refutes it...or otherwise take the trouble of replying to me...
thank you

TRUTH SEEKER..........a troubled and confused muslim...
Re: guide me [message #31370 is a reply to message #31357 ] Wed, 28 December 2005 04:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dear Truthseeker ,

Out of logic, Iam assured that God has bestowed us with brains for every individual on his own, and every one is responsible for using his brain as using his eyes and ears, senses..as to arrive to the truth.
I have a question for you. Can you sell your brain to someone?

Well, since We cannot sell our brains to those Ahadithist , we should use our brains to arrive to truth.

Those Ahadithist , when they ask us to submit to the Ahadiths without any questioning, they meant by that as if asking you to sell them your brain without even using it. This is what Satan needs us to do !

We should be aware to that & strive to seek the truth for everything depending on logic using our brain. Our Lord need us to be " thinkable person" in arabic Ya'kilun.. to people who use their minds .. and not for those who sell their minds to others...

peace,
Noor
Re: guide me [message #35144 is a reply to message #31305 ] Wed, 22 March 2006 08:15 Go to previous message
  Bauer  is currently offline Bauer
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peace

here's the link you are looking for.....

http://islamicreform.org/index.php?id=8,7,0,0,1,0


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