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| Re: Where were the freeminds when RK preached Quran Alone? [message #48092 is a reply to message #48044 ] |
Mon, 28 July 2008 08:33   |
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Though there were small groups of Quran aloners around the world even before Rashad started his mission in late 1970's, they all had great holes and inconsistencies in their theological arguments.
First, through discovery of the code, the monotheist movement gained a powerful philosophical argument that cut their umbilical cord from the crowd. Before the discovery of the code in 1974, the proponents of the Quran alone message had to trust the crowd, since the authenticity of the Quran was thought to be dependent on the reliability of their ancestors. Accusing the same crowd of fabricating so many hadith, but at the same time heavily relying on the version of the Quran they have transmitted, and at the same time ignoring all those reports about the burning of the original Quran and disputes on some chapters and verses was contradictory and hunting. Code 19 is a divine blessing for monotheists.
Second, for the first time in centuries, Rashad made the strongest argument, thanks to his impressive insight to the Quranic language and powerful reasoning, for rejecting ALL hadith as authority in islam. His book, QURAN, HADITH and ISLAM I think is the most influential book in modern history.
Peace,
Edip
[Updated on: Mon, 28 July 2008 08:35] Edip Yuksel; J.D.
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| Re: Where were the freeminds when RK preached Quran Alone? [message #48154 is a reply to message #48092 ] |
Wed, 30 July 2008 16:33   |
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Edip did you really write this?? I mean are these your own words??? (not that of an assistant?)
| Quote: | Though there were small groups of Quran aloners around the world even before Rashad started his mission in late 1970's, they all had great holes and inconsistencies in their theological arguments.
First, through discovery of the code, the monotheist movement gained a powerful philosophical argument that cut their umbilical cord from the crowd. Before the discovery of the code in 1974, the proponents of the Quran alone message had to trust the crowd, since the authenticity of the Quran was thought to be dependent on the reliability of their ancestors. Accusing the same crowd of fabricating so many hadith, but at the same time heavily relying on the version of the Quran they have transmitted, and at the same time ignoring all those reports about the burning of the original Quran and disputes on some chapters and verses was contradictory and hunting. Code 19 is a divine blessing for monotheists.
Second, for the first time in centuries, Rashad made the strongest argument, thanks to his impressive insight to the Quranic language and powerful reasoning, for rejecting ALL hadith as authority in islam. His book, QURAN, HADITH and ISLAM I think is the most influential book in modern history.
Peace,
Edip
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| Re: Where were the freeminds when RK preached Quran Alone? [message #48428 is a reply to message #48035 ] |
Sun, 31 August 2008 03:03   |
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Peace
The messengers and adherents of the quran were here before Rashad, and as Edip mentions the inconsistencies in the groups before Rahsad the Submitters have also tended to be such with the ahadeeth of Rahsad and the persistence of Traditional practices that are not necessary. But honestly, I have yet to see completely consistent systems that the quran fits like a shoe.
Joe
Remember...whatever path you choose in life ALWAYS be true to yourself.
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| Re: Where were the freeminds when RK preached Quran Alone? [message #48460 is a reply to message #48154 ] |
Sun, 07 September 2008 00:25  |
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Yes, these are mine. I have an idea what part you might have problem with. But, I will let you express it first.
Peace,
Edip
Edip Yuksel; J.D.
www.yuksel.org
www.19.org
www.islamicreform.org
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