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 Topic: Where were the freeminds when RK preached Quran Alone?
Re: Where were the freeminds when RK preached Quran Alone? [message #48460 is a reply to message #48154 ] Sun, 07 September 2008 00:25
  Edip Yuksel  is currently offline Edip Yuksel
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Registered: June 2002
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Yes, these are mine. I have an idea what part you might have problem with. But, I will let you express it first.

Peace,
Edip


Edip Yuksel; J.D.
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 Topic: About the Abdallah's name in the Quran
Re: About the Abdallah's name in the Quran [message #48459 is a reply to message #48452 ] Sun, 07 September 2008 00:10
  Edip Yuksel  is currently offline Edip Yuksel
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Abdullah is one of about two dozen people that I have so far heard claiming their messengership after Rashad Khalifa. like others, he is busy to insert his name in the Quran. It is telling to see the emergence of so many copy cats after Rashad.

As far as I know, Abdullah, like many of those who claimed their messengership after Rashad is a very nice person. I think he really believes what he claims. I would like to pull your attention to one of the idiosyncrasies in his postings: the spelling of Salam:) Why do you think?

Peace,
Edip

[Updated on: Sun, 07 September 2008 00:19]


Edip Yuksel; J.D.
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Re: About the Abdallah's name in the Quran [message #48461 is a reply to message #48458 ] Sun, 07 September 2008 04:11
  Abdias  is currently offline Abdias
Messages: 5
Registered: September 2008
Location: Algeria
Beginner

Dear Brother Ahmad
Shalom

I'm very gald to have meet a submitter from my country I've embraced the God's message since 1991 after a very nice history it was prepared by God , everything is already preparing for us from God .
I don't know if you've heard about our brothers and sisters in your rigion there're more than 40 submitter .
concerning yur answer I try to answer , during the last years I heard about a man from Japan his name Ahmad Toshipa he claimed that he is a messenger only because his name is mentioned in the Quran first time I was interested but after I've changed my view point about him because I've discovered that Ahmad it's the the second name of the prophet Muhammad .
and here some proof .

Almost all of the Muslim World doesn’t know why the last Prophet had two names, AHMEN and MUHAMMAD. God gave to his last Prophet two names to protect it. I will explain to you with this new research that the Prophet ( Messenger) Muhammad was really sent by God .

These two names are mentioned in 5 chapters (61:6), (3:144), (33:40), (47:2), and (48:29). The total is ( (5+6+1+6+3+1+4+4+3+3+4+0+4+7+2+4+8+2+9) = 76 (19*4).

The gematrical value of these two names are, 53 for the word AHMED and 92 for the word MUHAMMAD; the total is also equal 19(5+3+9+2) = 19 (19*1)

The disbelievers said that Rashad was a liar and the others said that he was a Muslim scientist; they didn’t accept him as a messenger. The word Rashad is mentioned in the Final Testament 19 times

for the word Ahmad

[2:99] We have sent down to you such clear revelations, and only the wicked will reject them.

(99 + 53) = 152 (19*8)

[2:144] We have seen you turning your face about the sky (searching for the right direction). We now assign a Qiblah that is pleasing to you. Henceforth, you shall turn your face towards the Sacred Masjid. Wherever you may be, all of you shall turn your faces towards it. Those who received the previous scripture know that this is the truth from their Lord. GOD is never unaware of anything they do.

[2:145] Even if you show the followers of the scripture every kind of miracle, they will not follow your Qiblah. Nor shall you follow their Qiblah. They do not even follow each others' Qiblah. If you acquiesce to their wishes, after the knowledge that has come to you, you will belong with the transgressors.

(144 + 145 + 53) = 342 (19*18)

[2:211] Ask the Children of Israel how many profound miracles have we shown them! For those who disregard the blessings bestowed upon them by GOD, GOD is most strict in retribution.

(2 + 211+ 53) = 266 (19*14)

SURA 73 CLOAKED

In the Name Of God Most Gracious Most Merciful

the gematrical value of the word Ahmed 53) = 57 (19*3)

[73:5] We will give you a heavy message.
[73:6] The meditation at night is more effective, and more righteous.
[73:7] You have a lot of time during the day for other matters.
[73:8] You shall commemorate the name of your Lord, to come ever closer and closer to Him.
[73:9] Lord of the east and the west; there is no other god beside Him. You should choose Him as your advocate.
[73:10] And remain steadfast in the face of their utterances, and disregard them in a nice manner

(5+6+7+8+9+10+73 + the gematrical value of the word Ahmed 53) = 171 (19*9

SURA 74 THE HIDDEN

In the Name of God Most Gracious, Most Merciful,

(1+2+3+74+53) = 133 (19*7)

(4+53) = (19*3)

for the name Muhammad
SURA - 2 THE HEIFER ( AL-BAQARAH)

In the name of God Most Gracious , Most Merciful .

[2:96] In fact, you will find them the most covetous of life; even more so than the idol worshipers. The one of them wishes to live a thousand years. But this will not spare him any retribution, no matter how long he lives. GOD is seer of everything they do.

(2 + 96 + 92) = 190 (19*10)

[2:97] Say, "Anyone who opposes Gabriel should know that he has brought down this (Quran) into your heart, in accordance with GOD's will, confirming previous scriptures, and providing guidance and good news for the believers."

(96 + 97 + 92) = 285 (19*15)

[2:285] The messenger has believed in what was sent down to him from his Lord, and so did the believers. They believe in GOD, His angels, His scripture, and His messengers: "We make no distinction among any of His messengers." They say, "We hear, and we obey. Forgive us, our Lord. To You is the ultimate destiny."

[2:286] GOD never burdens a soul beyond its means: to its credit is what it earns, and against it is what it commits. "Our Lord, do not condemn us if we forget or make mistakes. Our Lord, and protect us from blaspheming against You, like those before us have done. Our Lord, protect us from sinning until it becomes too late for us to repent. Pardon us and forgive us. You are our Lord and Master. Grant us victory over the disbelieving people."

(2 + 285 + 286 + 92) = 665 (19*35)

SURA 3 - THE AMRAMITES (ALI-'IMRAN)

In the name of God Most Gracious , Most Merciful

(3 + 92) = 95 (19*5)

[3:7] He sent down to you this scripture, containing straightforward verses - which constitute the essence of the scripture - as well as multiple-meaning or allegorical verses. Those who harbor doubts in their hearts will pursue the multiple-meaning verses to create confusion, and to extricate a certain meaning. None knows the true meaning thereof except GOD and those well founded in knowledge. They say, "We believe in this - all of it comes from our Lord." Only those who possess intelligence will take heed.

[3:8] "Our Lord, let not our hearts waver, now that You have guided us. Shower us with Your mercy; You are the Grantor.

[3:9] "Our Lord, You will surely gather the people on a day that is inevitable. GOD never breaks a promise."

(3 + 7 + 8 + 9 + 92) = (7 + 8 + 9 + 3 + 9 + 2) = 38 (19*2)

[3:20] If they argue with you, then say, "I have simply submitted myself to GOD; I and those who follow me." You shall proclaim to those who received the scripture, as well as those who did not, "Would you submit?" If they submit, then they have been guided, but if they turn away, your sole mission is to deliver this message. GOD is Seer of all people.

SURA 73 CLOAKED

In the Name Of God Most Gracious Most Merciful

[73:1] O you cloaked one.
[73:2] Meditate during the night, except rarely.
[73:3] Half of it, or a little less.

(1+2+3+73+ the gematrical value of the word Muhammed 92) = 171 (19*9)

Please if you want to check all my works concerning the two name of the prophet send to me a email rra5051001142@yahoo.fr

concerning the Abdallah word in the Quran I think you haven't understood my message I said that the Abdsallah name is a popular name in the muslim world by the way I share with you this imformation I was named Abdallah by angels not by my parents , yes you are right every one servir the God's message we can to call him a servant but don't forget the Abdallah name is a popular name I think the verse 19 chapter 72 ii talk about a person his name Abdallah , yes I've some proofs concerning the two name Rashad and Abdallah it's a very important work I think it's time for to share it with all the people especially our broetyers and sisters in the God's submission , right now I haven't finsih all my work for to publish it but it will be soon promise .
my phoien number if you wnat to talk with me 00 213 7 91 96 16 6 5
Abdias ( Abdallah )

happy ramadan and say salaam to every body believe by the Quran alone in your town
Shalom





Shalom
Re: About the Abdallah's name in the Quran [message #48462 is a reply to message #48459 ] Sun, 07 September 2008 04:32
  Abdias  is currently offline Abdias
Messages: 5
Registered: September 2008
Location: Algeria
Beginner

Dear Brother Yuksel

Shalom


yes I know and I heard that there are a lot of people who claimed their messengership believe me that does me a heart ache because those people with a good intention want to destroy the God's message I hope every one claim that he is a messenger he must to present solid proofs as Rashad did , I have canceled my travel to Turkey but insha Allah I will visite this beautiful country in the next months and thanks for your thinking about me I know you're a sincer man and I respect you even I'm not agreed with you on all your view points .

yes you have right I'm very interested by the Abdallah's name in the Quran and I'm sure you'll take the subject in serious when I publish my works ( MY finding )

i didn't understand yur last question , Please can you to explain more .
Abdias ( Abdallah)
Shalom


Shalom
Forum: Genel Tartışmalar
 Topic: Namaz Vakitleri Hk.
Re: Namaz Vakitleri Hk. [message #48463 is a reply to message #48455 ] Sun, 07 September 2008 05:04
  tp
Messages: 154
Registered: November 2005
Writer
mercury wrote on Sat, 06 September 2008 20:16

Hakkı Yılmaz Cuma Namazı yok demiyor ki???

Hakkı Yılmaz Cuma Namazı yok diyor demiyorum. Bu namazın öğle vakti olmadığını diyor diyorum. Smile
mercury wrote on Sat, 06 September 2008 20:16

Sen nasıl olurda gündüzün iki ucunu sabah ve akşam olarak algılamıyorsun?

Peki sen benim onu öyle algılamadığımı nerden aldıladın, ben onu bi türlü algılayamadım. Very Happy
mercury wrote on Sat, 06 September 2008 20:16

Yazıları neresinden okuyorsun anlamadım?

Smile

Hocam, bu Hakkı Yılmaz denen zat sabah akşam yatsı farz demiyo mu? Benn bunu okudum ve iletiyi buna göre yazdım. Yazıların tamamını okumadım. Zaten bu yorumu yapan fasulyaden bi mantığın yazılarını okumaya değer mi?

Daha açık yazayım:

1- 62:9-10 ayetlerinde insanlar Cuma günü maskeli baloya değil bildiğimiz namaza çağrılır. Ayette salat kelimesi geçer.

2- Kurana göre salat belirlenmiş vakitlerde yapılan bir ibadettir. dolayısıyla o Cuma günü kılınan salatında vakti Allah tarafından belirlenmiştir.

3- Cuma günü kılınan salatın vakti ayrıca Kuranda belirtilmediğine göre, ve Kuranda hiç bir şey eksik bırakılmadığına göre, Cuma günü kılınan salat, Kuranın başka ayetlerinde vakti bildirilen farz namazlardan biridir.

4- 62:9-10 ayetlerinden açıkça anlaşılacağı üzere, Cuma günkü o salat gündüz kılınır, çünkü bu namazın öncesi ve sonrasında ticari faaliyet vs devam etmektedir.

5- Dolayısıyla gündüz kılınan en az bir farz namaz vardır.





Onlara, "Allah'ın indirmiş olduğuna inanın!" denildiğinde şöyle konuşurlar: "Biz, bize indirilene inanırız." Ve ondan ötesini inkâr ederler.

De ki: "Ey Ehlikitap! Siz, Tevrat'ı, İncil'i ve Rabbinizden size indirileni tam uygulamadıkça hiçbir şey değilsiniz." Rabbinden sana indirilen, onlardan birçoğunun küfür ve azlığını elbette artıracaktır. Küfre batan topluluk için tasalanma artık.

Allah katında, yürüyen canlıların en kötüsü kâfir olanlardır. Çünkü onlar iman etmezler.

Kim Allah'a, O'nun meleklerine, resullerine, Cebrail'e, Mikâil'e düşman kesilirse, Allah da bu tür inkârcılara düşman kesilir.

Müminler, müminleri bırakıp da küfre sapanları gönül dostu edinmesinler. Kim bunu yaparsa Allah'la ilişiği kesilir.

Ey iman edenler! Yahudileri ve Hıristiyanları gönül dostları edinmeyin. Onlar birbirlerinin gönül dostlarıdır. Sizden kim onları gönül dostu edinirse o, onlardandır.


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