salam,
...does not give 1276 but 1286 which is NOT a multiple of nineteen. It seems as this was a mistake then. GOD Bless!

786

Salaamun Alaykum dear brother Idmkhizar,

By presenting of this Proof there was a mistake.

It should be like this; The G.V. of the phrase "The Seal of the Prophets" according to the verse 33:40 gives 1184.
By adding the Chapter number, verse number with the G.V. of this important statement and G.V. of "Muhammad", the last Prophet we obtain a multiple of nineteen.

33 + 40 + 1184 + 92 = 1349 (19x71)

ما كان محمد أبا أحد من رجالكم ولكن رسول الله وخاتم النبين وكان الله بكل شيء عليما

Peace,

H. O.

This is nice.. In one verse to get 19.. you don't add anything. Then in some you add the chapter and verse number... Then in some you add the GV of Rashad Khalifa. This is how miracles come?? In such biased ways???

Salaamun Alaykum,

First, I think you need Glasses, please show me where in my message and mathematical example I used G.V. of Rashad Khalifa

Second, the famous verse clearly mentioned the name "Muhammad", (there is only 4 verses in the Quran where Muhammad's name is mentioned) by providing the Fact "MUHAMMAD IS THE LAST PROPHET" but not the last messenger.

Over generations, the corrupt Muslims claimed Muhammad as the last messenger of God, despite the clear verse 3:81 (the promise messenger "messenger of the Covenant" later ironically chanced into belief promise messenger "Mahdi") thus the mathematical system of the Quran has exposed by God's will this Historical Lies and corruption of so calling followers of Muhammad.

H. O.

Peace Hasan,

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It should be like this; The G.V. of the phrase "The Seal of the Prophets" according to the verse 33:40 gives 1184. By adding the Chapter number, verse number with the G.V. of this important statement and G.V. of "Muhammad", the last Prophet we obtain a multiple of nineteen. 33 + 40 + 1184 + 92 = 1349 (19x71)

This is a mathematical manipulation

Salaam

wow. a mathemetical miracle huh.. Why is it so that your messenger of the covenant made mistakes while showing the miracle? Has in the history any divine miracle had errors or needed research???
Secondly since you like the idea that Rashad is(or was) the messenger of the covenant please answer this. Rashd in his appendix 32 wrote that ANYBODY who dies under the age of 40 goes to heaven. He further wrote that God would know if a person was wicked= did not deserve heaven, and then that that person would die before 40 years of age. And he wrote Bundy example. Did you know that the 9/11 hijackers were below 40 when they all died killing 3000 people and wounding many??? So you would still insist that a man who says such stupid things really is a messenger of Allah????

Awaiting your reply....

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This is nice.. In one verse to get 19.. you don't add anything. Then in some you add the chapter and verse number... Then in some you add the GV of Rashad Khalifa. This is how miracles come?? In such biased ways???

I agree with Damnare, Elite and others that this is a mathematical manipulation with not much merit.

Dear Imdkhizar.

Please read my debate Lomax on the mathematical structure of the Quran: Running Like Zebras.

Peace,
Edip

Salaam:

Edip Yuksel wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 08:44

Quote: This is nice.. In one verse to get 19.. you don't add anything. Then in some you add the chapter and verse number... Then in some you add the GV of Rashad Khalifa. This is how miracles come?? In such biased ways??? I agree with Damnare, Elite and others that this is a mathematical manipulation with not much merit. Dear Imdkhizar. Please read my debate Lomax on the mathematical structure of the Quran: Running Like Zebras. Peace, Edip

Does this means that you are reconsidering your discovery of Rashad’s names GV adding to with certain verses?
Peace.
Bahman

Salaam

H.O. wrote on Tue, 11 January 2005 09:03

786 Salaamun Alaykum dear brother Idmkhizar, By presenting of this Proof there was a mistake. It should be like this; The G.V. of the phrase "The Seal of the Prophets" according to the verse 33:40 gives 1184. By adding the Chapter number, verse number with the G.V. of this important statement and G.V. of "Muhammad", the last Prophet we obtain a multiple of nineteen. 33 + 40 + 1184 + 92 = 1349 (19x71) ما كان محمد أبا أحد من رجالكم ولكن رسول الله وخاتم النبين وكان الله بكل شيء عليما Peace, H. O.

Good job. As far as these numbers are inside Quran then it is not coincidence.
Let those that reject it to imitate such simple interlock.
among 6000+ verse and aa4 sura choosing a chapter and verse number to be locked with name and phrase in such context.
They may can do with thier powerfull programs
I may add the following to your finding ;

33401184=19x1757957

More is coming GW

Peace.

Salaamun Alaykum dear brother Bahman,

bahman wrote on Thu, 13 January 2005 02:54

Salaam H.O. wrote on Tue, 11 January 2005 09:03 786 Salaamun Alaykum dear brother Idmkhizar, By presenting of this Proof there was a mistake. It should be like this; The G.V. of the phrase "The Seal of the Prophets" according to the verse 33:40 gives 1184. By adding the Chapter number, verse number with the G.V. of this important statement and G.V. of "Muhammad", the last Prophet we obtain a multiple of nineteen. 33 + 40 + 1184 + 92 = 1349 (19x71) ما كان محمد أبا أحد من رجالكم ولكن رسول الله وخاتم النبين وكان الله بكل شيء عليما Peace, H. O. Good job. As far as these numbers are inside Quran then it is not coincidence. Let those that reject it to imitate such simple interlock. among 6000+ verse and aa4 sura choosing a chapter and verse number to be locked with name and phrase in such context. They may can do with thier powerfull programs I may add the following to your finding ; 33401184=19x1757957 More is coming GW Peace.

This was Rashad's Job not my, obviously he made a mistake in presentation of this one, now we did correct him Alhamdulellah

As so far what brother Elite (Jamal) and Edip said about some of Rashad's calculations I do not agree with them that these are "Mathematical manipulation" or worthless.

According to what, "Statistical mathematics"

Again concerning verse 33:40 here more details according to Quranical method (18:25 & 29:14);

Sura 33 is the only Chapter which has precisely 73 verses.

a) 33 - 73 = 40
b) 33 + 73 = 106
c) 33 + 40 = 73
d) 33 – 40 = 7

Comment:
40 gives the verse number where the name Muhammad only mentioned, furthermore Sura 40 is “Forgiver” and Sura 106 is “Quraish” (note G.V. of this word is 610)
By God’s will and his forgiveness, “Muhammad” the Gentile among Quraish (G. V. 610) was destined with the age of 40 in the Year 610 to be God’s messenger and final Prophet as descript in verse 40 of Sura 33, Masha’Allah!!!

Mathematical confirmation of the Chapters 40 and 106;

Sura 40 has 85 numbered verses, thus 4085 = 19 x 215
Sura 106 has 4 numbered verses, thus 1064 = 19 x 56 (7x8)

About Number Seven just some facts;

First Chapter has 7 numbered verses,
Number 7 is the first used number of the Quran 2:29,
2 + 29 + 7 = 38 (19x2)
4th Prime number is 7 and Sura 47 is titled “Muhammad” has 38 (19x2 )numbered verses in other way Sura 74 is titled “The Hidden Secret” (Where Quran’s common denominator prime number “Nineteen” are placed) has 56 (7x8) numbered verses.

Do you need more details

33 and 40 connections;

"Jesus, the son of Mary" (he is according to the Quran the 19th Prophet mentioned by his name and Sura 19 is “Mary”) lived 33 Solar Years (remember 33 is also the frequency of the word "Sun" in the Quran, for connection see awesome verse 19:33)
Muhammad was born 570 (19x30) Years after “Jesus” and he was 40 years old when he was destined to be "God's messenger and final Prophet" 33:40.

Adding both numbers 33 + 40 = 73...according to the revelation Sura 21 (7x3) "The Prophets" was 73rd revealed Chapter. 21st composite number is again 33.

Peace,

H. O.

1619
786

Salaamun Alaykum,

Damnare Sathani wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 16:50

Salaam wow. a mathemetical miracle huh.. Why is it so that your messenger of the covenant made mistakes while showing the miracle? Has in the history any divine miracle had errors or needed research??? Secondly since you like the idea that Rashad is(or was) the messenger of the covenant please answer this. Rashd in his appendix 32 wrote that ANYBODY who dies under the age of 40 goes to heaven. He further wrote that God would know if a person was wicked= did not deserve heaven, and then that that person would die before 40 years of age. And he wrote Bundy example. Did you know that the 9/11 hijackers were below 40 when they all died killing 3000 people and wounding many??? So you would still insist that a man who says such stupid things really is a messenger of Allah???? Awaiting your reply....

Here are my reply,

No comments needed



[46:13] Surely, those who say, "Our Lord is GOD," then lead a righteous life, will have no fear, nor will they grieve.
[46:14] They have deserved Paradise, where they abide forever; a reward for their works.



[46:15] We enjoined the human being to honor his parents. His mother bore him arduously, gave birth to him arduously, and took intimate care of him for thirty months. When he reaches maturity, and reaches the age of forty, he should say, "My Lord, direct me to appreciate the blessings You have bestowed upon me and upon my parents, and to do the righteous works that please You. Let my children be righteous as well. I have repented to You; I am a submitter."
[46:16] It is from these that we accept the righteous works, and overlook their sins. They have deserved Paradise. This is the truthful promise that is promised to them.

Peace,

H. O.

786

Salaamun Alaykum,

Edip Yuksel wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 17:44

Quote: This is nice.. In one verse to get 19.. you don't add anything. Then in some you add the chapter and verse number... Then in some you add the GV of Rashad Khalifa. This is how miracles come?? In such biased ways??? I agree with Damnare, Elite and others that this is a mathematical manipulation with not much merit. Peace, Edip

Edip:

THERE IS NO MANIPULATION OR WHAT ELSE IN QURAN'S MATHEMATICAL SYSTEM!!!

The problem is in YOUR understanding, or mind , let me explain what I’ am saying before you try to reply with injustice arguments.

The King's Dream

[12:43] The king said, "I saw seven fat cows being devoured by seven skinny cows, and seven green spikes (of wheat), and others shriveled. O my elders, advise me regarding my dream, if you know how to interpret the dreams."
[12:44] They said, "Nonsense dreams. When it comes to the interpretation of dreams, we are not knowledgeable."

It was in the Year 2004 I shared with Cemal and other submitters some information regarding GWB I was Witness by God's will. I claimed; "I believe (my reason based on mathematical nature..) GWB will reelected the President of the USA till the Year 2008".

He answered to me with the argument like; "IT IS NOT POSSIBLE THAT GWB WILL REELECTED", WOW

However later after the election was done by God's will my argument was CONFIRMED!

What was Cemal's Proof for his argument, I think it was ONLY his belief which based on emotional claim

Another example was...I discussed with Cemal and others about "the Quake" because it was actual debate among the scientist in Turkiye, some of them claimed there could be a massive Quake in Istanbul in the year 2004, may with the Magnitude more then 6.6 or 6.7

However I proclaimed again by God's leave through Quran's mathematical system "THERE WILL NO QUAKE" with such magnitude in the 501st Leap Year 2004!!!

My argument and believe based on Quran's mathematical system was again CONFIRMED!!!

God be glorified, this is the knowledge and blessing of our Lord upon us, like he teaches and blessed Joseph with the interpretations of the Dreams 12:21, he teaches us the mathematical interpretation of the Quran 74:30 (G.V. is 1221).

[12:21] The one who bought him in Egypt said to his wife, "Take good care of him. Maybe he can help us, or maybe we can adopt him." We thus established Joseph on earth, and we taught him the interpretation of dreams. GOD's command is always done, but most people do not know.
[12:22] When he reached maturity, we endowed him with wisdom and knowledge. We thus reward the righteous.

[12:37] He said, "If any food is provided to you, I can inform you about it before you receive it. This is some of the knowledge bestowed upon me by my Lord. I have forsaken the religion of people who do not believe in GOD, and with regard to the Hereafter, they are really disbelievers.
[12:38] "And I followed instead the religion of my ancestors, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. We never set up any idols beside GOD. Such is the blessing from GOD upon us and upon the people, but most people are unappreciative.

Peace,

H. O.

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Quote: It should be like this; The G.V. of the phrase "The Seal of the Prophets" according to the verse 33:40 gives 1184. By adding the Chapter number, verse number with the G.V. of this important statement and G.V. of "Muhammad", the last Prophet we obtain a multiple of nineteen. 33 + 40 + 1184 + 92 = 1349 (19x71

A good numerology example!

Peace

Volkan