http://www.usn2161.net/119quake.pdf

Ahmad Nishitoba (a japanese claimer of being a messenger of God) gave his latest prooves in this document. According to him, earth will shake tomorrow.

The articles in his websites are just amazing by the way he formulates the spiritual teachings of the Quran : http://www.usn2161.net/main.html

However, i was really disappointed when i found out on this website that this guy was also involved in false prophecies, one can hardly accept him being a liar if he reads his articles, why on earth would a believer lie about God and claim being a messenger?

Is it a delayed retribution as he says or just madness for people knowledgeable of submission message?!

What do you think?

Of course it's a "delayed retribution". God didnt know whether or not to let the earthquake happen the first time, so He "delayed the retribution"!

When his calculations/predictions don't work out, "God delays the retribution". What nonsense!

2:9 They seek to deceive God and those who acknowledge, but they only deceive themselves without noticing.

What i actually meant is that Mr Nisitoba answered with the following verse :

[11:8] And if we delay for them the retribution for a specific period of time, they say, "What is keeping Him?" In fact, once it comes to them, nothing can stop it, and their mocking will come back to haunt them.

The contents of his website make me think that he deserves some attention.

He already lied a few times about his "prophecy". If he really were a messenger, he would be proclaiming his message openly to the world and not be hiding behind the internet. Furthermore, I'd say that God would support him instead of "delaying the retribution". Just wait until tomorrow and you'll see that his so-called "prophecy" is bogus just like all the rest of his past "prophecies".

wisemaniac wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 06:49

What i actually meant is that Mr Nisitoba answered with the following verse : [11:8] And if we delay for them the retribution for a specific period of time, they say, "What is keeping Him?" In fact, once it comes to them, nothing can stop it, and their mocking will come back to haunt them. The contents of his website make me think that he deserves some attention.

The verse is NOT about a SPECIFIC prophecy, it is about general warnings against ingrates and aggressors. God promises to punish them, and they challenge "why not now?" and the verse above is the answer for such a challenge: It is God that will determine the time, not the challenger!

However, if God determines the time and declares a specific day as a punishment, then He keeps his promise.

Obviously, you are unable to understand the level this Nisitoba guy is operating. I have come to know and personally meet about half a dozen of his ilk and they all share the same problem. Delusions and mega egos and enough knowledge to confuse those with little knowledge and little critical thinking skills.

So, I highly recommend you educating yourself in critical thinking and especially in logical fallacies. Knowledge will take much longer to attain; but if you learn how to use and appreciate your critical thinking skills, you will be able to easily diagnose false doomsday prophets from several miles away!

Peace,
Edip

Salaam everyone,

When someone makes a false prophecy, especially one when a specific date is mentioned, and it is not fulfilled, it makes him a liar or someone who is astray, or both. No ifs and buts.
Tomorrow God's truth will speak as it has already spoken with some other people who also claimed to be messengers and made false prophecies such as K.Emami, Bahattin Unsunkaya, Hassan Osturk, me (at least I cancelled my false prophecy and claim a few days before the date, and atoned publicly for my sins, which is not the case of any of the persons above mentioned) and so many others.
Facts talk, guys!!! Time to wake up.
It is very common that those people who claim to be messengers do not even condemn their own acts out of big EGO. How could they ( ) be wrong!? The others are just a bunch of disbelievers unable to decipher God's overwhelming signs. They hide behind excuses and their ego is too big to face the truth: they committed a horrendous sin which proved their "mission" and claims were not approved by God.

Do not worry about tommorow, God always seperates the wheat (truth) fron the chaff (lies).
That Ahmad Nishitoba is just another fraud, his past false prophecies did not teach him anything and he will do it again.
Maybe he will notice that somewhere on earth there was a 4.5 earthquake somewhere, and a multitudes of micro earthquakes -a great warning from God- maybe even a micro 1.9 earthquake (1.9 = 19 !!!) in the area where he claimed God's doom was going to strike.
Disbelievers are never them, they are always the others.

Peace.

Pierre

Perhaps, a true Messenger must have said:

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Say: I do not know, if what you are promised is NEAR, or my Lord made for it a LONG-TIME! (72/25)
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So from the very start, perhaps something may be fundamentally wrong --in conradiction with the Scripture-- here! Sincerely.

Salam brother Pierre,

I agree total with you about Ahmad Nishitoba, he has truly a big EGO only his ignorance seems bigger than his Ego.

so far i am respectful to your critical objection and acceptance, i consider it's unfair to associate this guy with myself, for a lot of reasons, which some of them you perhaps witness here.

God willing, we will talk about all the matters you accuse me in near future, at this time i haven't much time and motivation to discuss this issue.

Peace & Love,

H. O.

Pierre wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 20:24

Salaam everyone, When someone makes a false prophecy, especially one when a specific date is mentioned, and it is not fulfilled, it makes him a liar or someone who is astray, or both. No ifs and buts. Tomorrow God's truth will speak as it has already spoken with some other people who also claimed to be messengers and made false prophecies such as K.Emami, Bahattin Unsunkaya, Hassan Osturk, me (at least I cancelled my false prophecy and claim a few days before the date, and atoned publicly for my sins, which is not the case of any of the persons above mentioned) and so many others. Facts talk, guys!!! Time to wake up. It is very common that those people who claim to be messengers do not even condemn their own acts out of big EGO. How could they ( ) be wrong!? The others are just a bunch of disbelievers unable to decipher God's overwhelming signs. They hide behind excuses and their ego is too big to face the truth: they committed a horrendous sin which proved their "mission" and claims were not approved by God. Do not worry about tommorow, God always seperates the wheat (truth) fron the chaff (lies). That Ahmad Nishitoba is just another fraud, his past false prophecies did not teach him anything and he will do it again. Maybe he will notice that somewhere on earth there was a 4.5 earthquake somewhere, and a multitudes of micro earthquakes -a great warning from God- maybe even a micro 1.9 earthquake (1.9 = 19 !!!) in the area where he claimed God's doom was going to strike. Disbelievers are never them, they are always the others. Peace. Pierre

H@S@N OZTURK wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 18:43

Salam brother Pierre, I agree total with you about Ahmad Nishitoba, he has truly a big EGO only his ignorance seems bigger than his Ego. so far i am respectful to your critical objection and acceptance, i consider it's unfair to associate this guy with myself, for a lot of reasons, which some of them you perhaps witness here. God willing, we will talk about all the matters you accuse me in near future, at this time i haven't much time and motivation to discuss this issue. Peace & Love, H. O.

Salaam brother Hassan,

I consider you a Muslim, not a messenger. Making tons of discoveries in the Quran does not make anyone a messenger. Someone could be making 100 times more discoveries than everyone combined in the Quran, that would not make him/her a messenger.

In my opinion the fact that you associate yourself with KE and BU after all these years displays your lack of good judgment on this particular issue, even though I respect some of your discoveries and feedback on various subjects.
I believe you should dissociate yourself from them once and for all, because they are not good people.
Simply my advice.

Peace.

Pierre

Shalom , Peace , Asalaam Alaikoum All

right now i found only my name and Rashad coded in the Quran by using the same method , these days i am busy by the Quran i am studying with people the message because we must meet God perfect inshAllah . messenger or not for me it isn't important because we should support God alone , Khudr was very smart than Moise even Moise was a prophet .
God talk with amm the world notonly with messengers and prophet , God revealed his criptures to all the world not only messengers and prophets , our mision it's to be agree about prayer , don't fighting for nothing , we must listen for the right advice , i don't know you who you are maybe you are a spy and you are here for destroy message,anyway we will meet in the judgment day and we will be judged by God himself .
messenger or not it's not a special thing, we must studying Quran .

God bless you All

AbdAllah Mecherbet

Has anyone felt the Earth shaking yet?

The day didn't end yet in San Francisco. Let's give Mr Nishitoba some time before calling a therapist (no offence). I respect the fact that he worked hard on his document and i almost believed him for a moment !

[quote]I, Ahmad Nishitoba, the messenger of God, hereby proclaim that the long awaited day and time of victory for the sincere believers in God, all around the world is 119:

11. 9. 2009 at the exact time of 11:9 am[quote\]

I confirm : his prophecy failed again !!

Salaam,

[quote title=wisemaniac wrote on Mon, 09 November 2009 16:24 I, Ahmad Nishitoba, the messenger of God, hereby proclaim that the long awaited day and time of victory for the sincere believers in God, all around the world is 119:

11. 9. 2009 at the exact time of 11:9 am

I confirm : his prophecy failed again !![/quote]

Of course it failed.
The reason: He is an egoistic disbeliever.
Now ask him to apologize publicly and admit he is a false messenger and you will see he will make up excuses and maintain his false claims, . Like other false messengers did before him.
Only the blind will decide to follow people like him after a false, failed prophecy.

Bottom line: False prophecy = false messenger.

Peace.

Pierre

Oh my God !! you won't believe your eyes : http://www.usn2161.net/quakeofamerica.html

Nishitoba immediately changed the date to 2010 after his failure and seems to be working on new "prooves" !!

An idea came to mind , i looked at the web archive : http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www ... t/quakeofa merica.html
, he seems to have done the same thing every year since 2005 !!

What an arrogance !! (or maybe mental illness), i can neither believe how i got misled by his "nice" articles...