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 Post subject: You can enlighten the chaos, You can question the cause, You can will to win
PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:07 pm 
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The moral of the story in the music I produced is it can happen twice, but three times you got to be kidding, if three time then there has got to be a fourth and maybe even a fifth. For example, my eldest was a cross country captain, my second eldest brother was afirst team rugby player, 5 years and a sister separate me from my older brothers, does that mean I will be fast and hard, maybe I will start off quick and hard, but then growth pains, and various physical changes would mean I could not compete other than as a child.
The elder passed the test on the size of everything
The youth answered the question on the weight of nothing
The child won the competition on the pressure of eternal

So now there has been 2 World Wars, Britain and its allies have won both, what will happen the third time, will Britain change its colors or will it remain wrong sided, no one's talking about what it is about the British, where they sit on the fence, all they try and do is remain illusive and aloof to all the distinctions and understandings,

They won the dark war
They won the evil war
They won the wrong war

They don't want to answer any of the questions, they are too busy finding ways and means to seduce towards evil.

You can enlighten the chaos
You can question the cause
You can will to win


Teacher
Doctor
Professor

elder controls the mind of the child
youth rules the body of the elder
child owns the soul of the youth

Speed
Accuracy
Precision

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:17 am 
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They want to restrain people, always using the terror card, how many investigations have gone into finding the people responsible for the untold number of bomb attacks in Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan, it is just assumed it was the act of terrorist but no one knows where they come from, where they manufacture their bombs and how they recruit would be suicide bombers.

Trying to distil it to its finest purity. They want to restrain Iran from getting a nuclear bomb, they want to restrain the Taliban from getting into politics, they want to restrain children from eating too much, they want to restrain me.

Live and let live
You get what you give

Heard those words in a song, titled higher than the sun, on earth everything under the sun, but what was higher than the sun, experience and innocence bleed inside, hullicnogens can open me or untie me, I'm drifting into space free of time, amazing words by Bobby Gillespie, amazing, I'll post it


My brightest star's my inner light let it guide me
Experience and innocence bleed inside me
Hallucinogens can open me or untie me
I drift in inner space, free of time
I find a higher state of grace, in my mind
I'm beautiful

I wasn't born to follow
I live just for today, don't care about tomorrow
What i've got in my head you can't buy, steal or borrow
I believe in live and let live
I believe you get what you give

I've glimpsed, I have tasted, fantastical places
My soul's an oasis, higher than the sun

I'm higher than the sun


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Less of the restraining, not making people lose their marbles.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:36 am 
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The title of this post is 'a religion of peace or a cult of Muhammad', anyone familiar with the Muslim world, would realise there is an element of both or outright one sided arguments, what must be acceptable is that if we view our similarities and correlations we will find the essence and undeniable factors of validity lie not in our differences but in what we share, first of all we share the Holy Book, which in the middle ages people argued whether the written word is eternal, in fact it is, being the third dimension the third position it is eternal just as The Omnipresent can be distinguished as the Eternal and concerns time or history. The Quran is what binds us as a community, but where we differ is according to most concerns prayer and the rites of Islam, we say fatiha must be recited first of all when stood up, and this the madhabs agree upon, we say we read 'glory be to God' in Arabic three times, the madhabs agree upon, in many other instances the madhabs and the various sects are in agreement.

So where are the differences? Examples include things such as when to recite besmallah and when to leave it out, what to add to the declaration of faith to also send peace to Muhammad and Abraham. So we recognise underneath it all there is shared opinion, something the sunnis try to argue about consensus, but rather than consensus we look for agreement not political elevations and disasters. The madhabs also agree upon the units of prayer, within the four madhabs and in Shiaism, they agree upon there being 2,4,4,3,4 units for the five prayers, but they differ upon the suna prayers and the nafil prayers which are additional units differing from madhabs.
So now we have distilled prayers to its simplistic form, before the idolization of Muhammad began, and the essence and truth has been restored. But this is just my view, however something people are still fighting and trying to defeat is the mathematical code which also points to there being 17 units daily of salat, briefly we find 24434 is a multiple of 19, so much so that the number it divides to 1286, which adds to 17, a double whammy, and beautiful reason to prayer just 17 units per day.

We are not looking for disagreement, we are not looking for consensus, we are looking for the principles and the enlightening way and to listen and obey, to find agreement rather than dissension, divisions and diversions.

Because the truth is the Muslim world has strayed by diverting from its core, and instead of being willing particles in obedience to the nucleus they have become free radicals and one of the ways it has achieved this is by the choice they made to either believe truth shall set you free or to enslave to enslave to the size of the dog.


It ain't the size of the dog in the fight,
It's the fight in the dog on the day or the night
There's no time to reflect upon the threat, the bark nor the bite (Ian Brown, illegal attacks)


It is a choice they made, to either set free or to enslave, every dog has his day idea.

The best comes to those who wait.



In religion I found submission to God, and to accept Rashad as a messenger of God. The best form of Islam


Verily God is with the steadfast.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:23 pm 
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All this questioning of trial and honour, when you oppose all will to believe in good, when you bear your spotlight onto fellow men and women, when you put on trial for the sake of breaking down views of incorruptibility and infallibility.

Everything speaks, and to try and evade the light that there is a creed of peace, of submission which you ignore without studying, just so that you can argue 'all religions are wrong', whereas submission is a state whereby you are convince that only God possesses power, with that in mind there maybe those who transcend their religions and belong in the creed of peace.

The creed of peace, is not a statement of superiority like the Christians claim of their religion, that Christianity is more superior than the rest. They have made up their minds, without studying it. Studying what? the Quran. When they do they only try to point out at particulars, forgetting the whole, their foundations are not in the Quran, they are in the corrupted scriptures of the Jews and Christians full of contradictions and lies which were done out of fabricated lies that God is jealous, when to God belongs the most beautiful name, anyone who does not reverence the name of God by attributing lies to Him, will incur wrath.

Innovating with the Immanuel prophecy and the son of David contradictions and lineages, with the lies of the birth and the crucifixion, and they call their lying superior. And the adulterations of children, with brainwashing and making them part of the cult, rather than free with the truth, making Temple Mount al-aqsa, due to lies of Hadith, but if the elders were no better, and the youth were all wasted what will the children, live for, just let your imagination take over, and it will be alright in the end, ignorance is bliss. Lies are wishful, hypocrisy is contradictory.

Fabrications, innovations and adulterations.

War or peace

You cannot stick your butter knife deep into the butter, then cover the surface, what does that mean?

God guides whomever He wills. You are either people of peace, Muslims or you're people of greed, hatred, lust, envy, malice and pride, Satanists. You either redeem your soul or lose your soul.

God is not on trial, you are on trial.

God is Light
God is Love
God is Peace

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:38 pm 
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So now we have distilled prayers to its simplistic form, before the idolization of Muhammad began, and the essence and truth has been restored. But this is just my view, however something people are still fighting and trying to defeat is the mathematical code which also points to there being 17 units daily of salat, briefly we find 24434 is a multiple of 19, so much so that the number it divides to 1286, which adds to 17, a double whammy, and beautiful reason to prayer just 17 units per day.

Salam and nice to see you here.
Briefly in my early years of submission i was following Rashad's guidance for contact prayers and took while to refresh my prayer knowledge which was induced by force during schooling time as a a compulsory one which hardly i could pass the exams . :)
Since leaving school i never prayed again as i never believed in any messenger, prophet and book work of creator "designer" of universes. and of course i was penalized for such belief by well educated possessing phds following Shia imams ........Khomaini.

The only reason of my belief for existence of God and His Protected words in Quran is numerical ( or mathematical) structure of Quran context which up to now nobody has been able to produce one.
Honestly i did not know Rashad is not alive for months as i was a believer due to Miracle not Rashad's messenger ship.
It was in second year that I was expecting something more SOLID than dreaming , verses numbers or root of Rashad matching 19 ( found by by Edip Yuksel) which are questionable by those know good Arabic.I
Then my questions never answered by those pioneers that write pages, articles, essays, books. interview ....etc.

1- 74:30 says "over it is 19" .
I believe that this means over words of creator in Quran and any other work and design of his creation which are infallible not tradition which is product of centuries of conjecture and differences bases on history written by those were in power.
I believe we should use only code 19 for Quran and any other design by God not our traditions.

2-None of these pioneers which their names are listed at the end of Miracle has informed truth seekers which part of Miracle was initiated by Rashad personally.

3-I believe that messages as is explained has different meanings related to time and location (knowledge).

Praying 5 times and 17 periods ( Ahmed Deedat wrote in one of his article said there are 200 kinds of prayer plus ex Sunnis submitters 201) is not applicable in today world's hi-tech life style and working.
My final question is left with no response for several times, you may guide me please. :)
Peace.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:18 pm 
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My final question is left with no response for several times, you may guide me please. :)
Peace.


The highlight above is from me.

Salaam Dear Bahman,

I did not get what the above final question of yours is. Would you please state the QUESTION clearly?

Peace,
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My final question is left with no response for several times, you may guide me please. :)
Peace.

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Salaam Dear Bahman,

I did not get what the above final question of yours is. Would you please state the QUESTION clearly?

Peace,
Khalil

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Please click on that and read the post in FM forum.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:19 pm 
Dear Bahman,

Per your direction, I read your post at FM forum. I still cannot get what your question is. Can you just state the unanswered question one more time so I can respond to it? What is the question?

Peace,
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My final question is left with no response for several times, you may guide me please. :)
Peace.


The highlight above is from me.

Salaam Dear Bahman,

I did not get what the above final question of yours is. Would you please state the QUESTION clearly?

Peace,
Khalil

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Dear Bahman,

Per your direction, I read your post at FM forum. I still cannot get what your question is. Can you just state the unanswered question one more time so I can respond to it? What is the question?

Peace,
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:35 pm 
Salaam Dear Bahman,

I did visited the wikipedia link you put there, but still I did not get your question.

Anyways I give up.

peace,
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