{"id":3943,"date":"2013-01-07T03:30:43","date_gmt":"2013-01-07T09:30:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/19.org\/?p=3943"},"modified":"2013-01-07T12:41:25","modified_gmt":"2013-01-07T18:41:25","slug":"yogurt-modeli","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/yogurt-modeli\/","title":{"rendered":"Balkaba\u011f\u0131, Kaplumba\u011fa ve Yo\u011furt"},"content":{"rendered":"

Balkaba\u011f\u0131 ve Kaplumba\u011fadan sonra Yo\u011furt Modeli<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0Edip Y\u00fcksel<\/span>
\n7 Ocak 2013<\/span>
\nwww.19.org<\/span><\/p>\n

\"K\u00fcrtler<\/a><\/p>\n

Irk\u00e7\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131, Saltanat\u0131, Fa\u015fizmi savunmak i\u00e7in Kabak, Kaplumba\u011fa, Habis-i \u015eerif, Adalet, Konjonkt\u00fcr, Papa modellerinden sonra \u015fimdi de “yo\u011furt” modeli \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131.<\/p>\n

T\u00fcrkiye’de K\u00fcrtlere y\u00f6nelik \u0131rk\u00e7\u0131 politikay\u0131 savunmak i\u00e7in fa\u015fist rejimin propaganda makinalar\u0131 bir s\u00fcr\u00fc teoriler, bahaneler ve modeller uydurup geli\u015ftirmi\u015fler. Her a\u00e7\u0131k ve en al\u00e7ak\u00e7a \u0131rk\u00e7\u0131l\u0131k \u00f6rnekleri ele\u015ftirildi\u011finde bu uyduruk teorileri, bahaneleri ve modelleri \u00f6ne s\u00fcrerler. Biri tutmazsa di\u011ferine atlarlar. T\u0131pk\u0131 \u00e7ekirge gibi\u2026<\/p>\n

ONURLU<\/b>: O sultanlar\u0131n hepsi<\/b> Allah’a isyan etti, halk\u0131na ihanet etti. Zira, Allah’\u0131n \u00f6ng\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc se\u00e7imle ba\u015fa<\/b> gelme yerine soyla sopla, k\u0131l\u0131\u00e7la topla zorla<\/b> dayatt\u0131lar kendilerini. Evet Osmanl\u0131 Padi\u015fahlar\u0131n\u0131n hapsi<\/b> firavun!<\/p>\n

REAYA<\/b>: Osmanl\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7 k\u0131tada at s\u00fcrd\u00fc. E\u011fer padi\u015fahl\u0131k iddia etti\u011finiz gibi zalim bir sistem idiyse bunu nas\u0131l becerdi?<\/p>\n

ONURLU<\/b>: Yunan, Roma ve Bizans imparatorluklar\u0131 da \u00fc\u00e7 k\u0131tada at s\u00fcrd\u00fc. \u0130ngiliz krall\u0131\u011f\u0131 yedi k\u0131tada at s\u00fcrd\u00fc! Buna g\u00f6re \u0130ngiliz krallar\u0131 Osmanl\u0131 padi\u015fahlar\u0131ndan daha adaletli ve iyiydiler. Kabak b\u00fcy\u00fckl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc onun \u00fcz\u00fcm veya vi\u015fneden daha \u00e7ok vitamin ve kalori sahibi yapmaz.<\/p>\n

REAYA<\/b>: Peki Osmanl\u0131 padi\u015fahlar\u0131 iddia etti\u011finiz gibi zalim idilerse o zaman Osmanl\u0131 nas\u0131l olur da 600 y\u0131l ya\u015fard\u0131?<\/p>\n

ONURLU<\/b>: Kabak \u00f6rne\u011fi tutmay\u0131nca \u015fimdi de kaplumba\u011fa \u00f6rne\u011fi veriyorsun. Baz\u0131 kaplumba\u011falar yakla\u015f\u0131k iki y\u00fcz y\u0131l ya\u015farlar. Demek ki Osmanl\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7 kaplumba\u011fa kadar ya\u015fad\u0131. Uzun ya\u015famak adaletin delili ise o zaman Roma imparatorlu\u011fu Osmanl\u0131’dan iki kat daha adaletliydi. Dahas\u0131, se\u00e7ilmi\u015f halifeler d\u00f6nemi sadece 30 y\u0131l s\u00fcrd\u00fc.<\/p>\n

REAYA<\/b>: \u0130yi de Fatih Sultan Mehmet k\u00f6t\u00fc birisi olsayd\u0131 peygamberimiz taraf\u0131ndan \u00f6v\u00fcl\u00fcr m\u00fcyd\u00fc? “\u0130stanbul fethedilecektir. Onu fetheden komutan ne iyi bir komutan, onu fetheden asker ne iyi bir askerdir” hadisi yalan m\u0131?<\/p>\n

ONURLU<\/b>: Zalim ve sarho\u015f Emevi sultanlar\u0131n\u0131n propagandac\u0131lar\u0131 onlar\u0131 mehdi ilan etmek i\u00e7in uyduruk hadislerle Mehdi’yi \u015eam’dan \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131rken, Abbasi sultanlar\u0131n\u0131n propagandac\u0131lar\u0131 da Mehdi’yi Basra’dan veya Kufe’den \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131yorlard\u0131. Halk\u0131n dini duygular\u0131n\u0131 g\u0131d\u0131klay\u0131p acemlere d\u00fc\u015fman yapmak i\u00e7in hadis uyduranlar ve hatta 30’uncu surenin ilk ayetlerinin okunu\u015funu tahrif ederek bu amaca hizmet edenler \u0130stanbul’un fethini te\u015fvik i\u00e7in de hadis uydurdular. Mucize olarak kendisine SADECE Kuran verilen Muhammed’e bir s\u00fcr\u00fc uyduruk mucizeler yak\u0131\u015ft\u0131rmad\u0131 m\u0131? Parma\u011f\u0131yla i\u015faret ederek ay\u0131 ikiye yard\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve hatta ay\u0131n yar\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n Ali’nin bah\u00e7esine d\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc rivayet etmediler mi? M\u00fc\u015friklerin uygulamas\u0131 olan recim, yani ta\u015fla \u00f6ld\u00fcrme cezas\u0131n\u0131 hadis yoluyla ayet uydurmad\u0131lar m\u0131? O uyduruk “ayeti” Kuran’a sokamay\u0131nca da onu kutsal bir ke\u00e7iye yedirip neshettirmediler mi? T\u00fcm bunlar\u0131 hadis yoluyla becermediler mi? Hem de \u0130stanbul’un fethiyle ilgili hadisten daha “sahih” oldu\u011funa inan\u0131lan hadisler yoluyla. Daha nice rezaleti, zulm\u00fc ve palavray\u0131 hadis yoluyla peygambere iftira ederek mezheplere sokmad\u0131lar m\u0131? Peygamber gelece\u011fi bilmezdi. Dahas\u0131, sarayda i\u00e7ki meclisleri d\u00fczenleyen, karde\u015f katili, k\u00f6leci, o\u011flanc\u0131 bir firavunu \u00f6vmezdi. (\u00d6rne\u011fin, makalenin sonundaki linklere bak)<\/p>\n

Ecdatperestlere ne anlatsan, neyi ispatlasan bo\u015f… “Hi\u00e7bir millet ge\u00e7mi\u015fini bizim kadar ele\u015ftirmez” dedi. Nazileri savunmay\u0131 bile su\u00e7 sayan Almanya’y\u0131 \u00f6rnek verdim; alakas\u0131z uyduruk bir farkl\u0131l\u0131k bulmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Tutmay\u0131nca, bu kez ecdad\u0131n\u0131n sa\u011fa sola sald\u0131rarak fethetti\u011fi topraklar\u0131n geni\u015fli\u011fini vurgulayarak kabak modeline atl\u0131yor. Tarihte Osmanl\u0131 kaba\u011f\u0131ndan daha b\u00fcy\u00fck kabaklar oldu\u011funu hat\u0131rlat\u0131nca, balkaba\u011f\u0131 kabak tad\u0131 vermeye ba\u015fl\u0131yor ve oradan “600 y\u0131l h\u00fck\u00fcm s\u00fcren” diye ba\u015flayan kaplumba\u011fa modeline ka\u00e7\u0131yor. Kaplumba\u011fa teorisini daha uzun s\u00fcre ya\u015fayan kaplumba\u011falarla \u00e7\u00fcr\u00fct\u00fcyorsun oradan “ama o zaman her devlet as\u0131p kesiyordu, her devlet bok yiyordu” bi\u00e7iminde \u00f6zetlenecek “konjonkt\u00fcr savunmas\u0131na” atl\u0131yor. Vicdan sahibi hi\u00e7bir insan\u0131n savunamayaca\u011f\u0131 firavunluklar\u0131, yani karde\u015f katli, k\u00f6lecilik, dev\u015firmecilik, ya\u011fmac\u0131l\u0131k, bilim d\u00fc\u015fmanl\u0131\u011f\u0131, reayac\u0131l\u0131k, cariyecilik, o\u011flanc\u0131l\u0131k, despotluk, din istismarc\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi zul\u00fcmleri savunmak i\u00e7in her uyduruk bahaneye sar\u0131lan ve balkaba\u011f\u0131ndan kaplumba\u011faya atlayan, psikopat bir kafa yap\u0131s\u0131yla kar\u015f\u0131 kar\u015f\u0131yay\u0131z.<\/p>\n

Tart\u0131\u015fman\u0131n son b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcnden bir al\u0131nt\u0131:<\/p>\n

EKREM YORUKAL\u0130<\/b>: Toplumlar\u0131n kendi atalar\u0131n\u0131, genetiklerini, iklimlerini de\u011fi\u015ftirme l\u00fcks\u00fc yoktur. Bug\u00fcn \u0130zlanda gibi Luteryen bir \u00fclke kar\u0131\u015f\u0131k olmamakla %97 ari olmakla \u00f6v\u00fcn\u00fcyor atas\u0131n\u0131 reddederek hangi toplum refaha ermi\u015f, selam.<\/p>\n

ED\u0130P YUKSEL<\/b>: K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fcc\u00fck \u00e7ocuklar\u0131 bo\u011farak \u00f6ld\u00fcren, y\u00fczlerce kad\u0131n\u0131 k\u00f6lele\u015ftirip cariye diye \u0131rzlar\u0131na ge\u00e7en ve se\u00e7ilmedikleri halde kendilerini zorla halk\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131na padi\u015fah ilan eden ve daha nice halt\u0131 i\u015fleyenler cehennemin dibini boylarlar dostum.<\/p>\n

Yahu onlar benim atam de\u011fil, senin de atan de\u011fil. O paranoyak ve psikopat firavunlar iktidar i\u00e7in \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131, torunlar\u0131n\u0131 bo\u011fdular. Geride kalan birka\u00e7 paranoyak, psikopat ta Avrupa’ya ihra\u00e7 edildi.<\/p>\n

O sultanlar sizi insan yerine koymad\u0131 ki? O sultanlar sizleri REAYA (koyun s\u00fcr\u00fcs\u00fc) olarak \u00e7a\u011f\u0131rd\u0131, sizlere KULLARIM diye hitap etti. Yahu biraz onur sahibi olun.<\/p>\n

A\u015fa\u011f\u0131da ba\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve linkini verdi\u011fim videonun alt\u0131nda TC’nin fa\u015fist asimilasyon politikas\u0131n\u0131 savunmak i\u00e7in yeni bir model ile kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131m:<\/p>\n

Edip Y\u00fcksel (T) Fatih Sultan Yahudi, Said K\u00fcrdi Arap, Fethullah da Ermeni imi\u015f!<\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/all_comments?v=iWlRx4tLYR4<\/p>\n

AL\u0130 TOSUN<\/b>: Merhaba Edip Bey. Nevruz bayram\u0131n\u0131n sonradan devlet erk\u00e2n\u0131 taraf\u0131ndan suni bir \u015fekilde kutland\u0131\u011f\u0131 konusunda size kat\u0131l\u0131yorum; ancak K\u00fcrtler ile \u0130ranl\u0131lar\u0131n bayram\u0131 oldu\u011fu k\u0131sm\u0131na kat\u0131lm\u0131yorum. \u015euan bir\u00e7ok T\u00fcrki devlet de kutlanmaktad\u0131r. T\u00fcrki devletlerde Sovyet bask\u0131s\u0131ndan dolay\u0131 70 y\u0131l kadar hi\u00e7 kutlanmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 zamanlar ya\u015fand\u0131 ancak ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131klar\u0131na kavu\u015ftuklar\u0131nda kutlamaya devam ettiler. En nihayetinde bu bir bahar bayram\u0131d\u0131r, sevin\u00e7tir, berekettir… her toplumda g\u00f6r\u00fclmesi gayet normaldir.<\/p>\n

ED\u0130P Y\u00dcKSEL<\/b>: Ali karde\u015fim, bu bayram orijinal olarak Fars ve K\u00fcrd bayram\u0131d\u0131r. Bayram\u0131n ismi de zaten bunu g\u00f6steriyor. New Roz… T\u00fcrklerin bu bayram\u0131 kutlamas\u0131 gayet g\u00fczel… Buna sadece sevinirim. Ama bu bayram\u0131 K\u00fcrt bayram\u0131 diye uzun s\u00fcre yasaklad\u0131ktan sonra birden bire T\u00fcrk bayram\u0131 yap\u0131p yasa\u011f\u0131 kald\u0131rmak tamam\u0131yla \u0131rk\u00e7\u0131 ve k\u00f6t\u00fc bir niyetin \u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcd\u00fcr. K\u00fcrtlerin bayram\u0131na bile m\u00fcsamaha etmeyen fa\u015fist bir zihniyettir. Bu zihniyeti te\u015fhis ve mahkum etmek gerekir. Gerisi hikaye.<\/p>\n

AL\u0130 TOSUN<\/b>: Edip Y\u00fcksel karde\u015fim, T\u00fcrkiye’de yap\u0131lan tutumun yanl\u0131\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131n fark\u0131nday\u0131m, bahsetti\u011finiz gibi uzun s\u00fcre yasakt\u0131 ve kutlamaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fanlar yasa d\u0131\u015f\u0131 g\u00f6steri yapm\u0131\u015f gibi muamele g\u00f6r\u00fcrd\u00fc. Art\u0131k ne olduysa durum \u00f6yle bir \u00e7ark etti ki devlet erkan\u0131 ve \u00fcniversitelerde kutlan\u0131p \u015fenlikler etkinlikler d\u00fczenlendi. Di\u011fer devletler hari\u00e7. \u00d6rne\u011fin, “yo\u011furt” kelimesi T\u00fcrk\u00e7e’dir ve bir\u00e7ok dile de b\u00f6yle ge\u00e7mi\u015ftir. \u015eimdi diyebilir miyiz ki yo\u011furt T\u00fcrk mal\u0131d\u0131r tescili bize aittir ve kimse yo\u011furt yapmas\u0131n. Selametle.<\/p>\n

ED\u0130P Y\u00dcKSEL<\/b>: \u015eimdi de Yo\u011furt teorisi \ud83d\ude42 G\u00fczel karde\u015fim. Diyelim ki Yunanistan T\u00fcrk bulu\u015fu diye Yo\u011furdu uzun s\u00fcre yasaklad\u0131. Ancak \u00e7e\u015fitli i\u00e7i ve d\u0131\u015f bask\u0131lar sonucunda Yo\u011furda izin vermeye karar verdi. Ama izin verirken de “Yo\u011furt Yunand\u0131r” ifadesinin t\u00fcm yo\u011furtlar \u00fczerine konmas\u0131n\u0131 gerekli g\u00f6rd\u00fc. Sen bir T\u00fcrk olarak bu yo\u011furt\u00e7ulu\u011fu ho\u015f g\u00f6r\u00fcr m\u00fcs\u00fcn? Bu yo\u011furt\u00e7ular Yunanistan’daki az\u0131nl\u0131k T\u00fcrkleri katliamlardan ge\u00e7irmi\u015fler, hapsetmi\u015fler, i\u015fkence ve hakaretlere maruz b\u0131rakm\u0131\u015flarsa… Yo\u011furdun mayas\u0131 tutmuyor.<\/p>\n

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http:\/\/www.toplumsalbilinc.org\/forum\/index.php?topic=13361.0<\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.haberiniz.com.tr\/yazilar\/koseyazisi68036-Tayyipin_Ecdadim_Dedigi_Osmanli_Oglanci_Miydi.html<\/p>\n

http:\/\/panturkist.blogcu.com\/oglanci-osmanlinin-torunlari-bunu-adam-gibi-okuyun-bakalim\/4344405<\/p>\n

http:\/\/blog.milliyet.com.tr\/osmanlida-oglancilik\/Blog\/?BlogNo=148209<\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.gaziantephaberler.com\/detay.php?id=14201<\/p>\n

http:\/\/blog.milliyet.com.tr\/Osmanli_da_Escinsellik_ve_Divan_Edebiyati__1__Bolum_\/Blog\/?BlogNo=390586<\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.kaosgl.org\/sayfa.php?id=10431<\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.toplumsalbilinc.org\/forum\/index.php?topic=13361.0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

\u015eimdi de Yo\u011furt teorisi \ud83d\ude42 G\u00fczel karde\u015fim. Diyelim ki Yunanistan T\u00fcrk bulu\u015fu diye Yo\u011furdu uzun s\u00fcre yasaklad\u0131. Ancak \u00e7e\u015fitli i\u00e7i ve d\u0131\u015f bask\u0131lar sonucunda Yo\u011furda izin vermeye karar verdi. Ama izin verirken de “Yo\u011furt Yunand\u0131r” ifadesinin t\u00fcm yo\u011furtlar \u00fczerine konmas\u0131n\u0131 gerekli g\u00f6rd\u00fc. Sen bir T\u00fcrk olarak bu yo\u011furt\u00e7ulu\u011fu ho\u015f g\u00f6r\u00fcr m\u00fcs\u00fcn? Bu yo\u011furt\u00e7ular Yunanistan’daki az\u0131nl\u0131k T\u00fcrkleri katliamlardan ge\u00e7irmi\u015fler, hapsetmi\u015fler, i\u015fkence ve hakaretlere maruz b\u0131rakm\u0131\u015flarsa… Yo\u011furdun mayas\u0131 tutmuyor.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,641],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3943","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-edipyuksel","category-turk-sorunu"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3943","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3943"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3943\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3943"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3943"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3943"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}