{"id":5256,"date":"2013-06-16T14:00:36","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T20:00:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/19.org\/?p=5256"},"modified":"2013-06-16T14:00:36","modified_gmt":"2013-06-16T20:00:36","slug":"edip-eliacik","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/edip-eliacik\/","title":{"rendered":"Kur\u2019an \u00f6l\u00fcler kitab\u0131 haline getirildi"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"line-height: normal; text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; color: #ff0000;\"><b>\u2018Kur\u2019an \u00f6l\u00fcler kitab\u0131 haline getirildi!\u2019<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"line-height: normal; text-align: center;\">\n<p style=\"line-height: normal; text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px;\"><b>Kur\u2019an \u00e7evirileri \u00fczerine m\u00fcnazara yap\u0131ld\u0131\u2026<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">14 \u015eubat 2013<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/19.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/2013-Edip-Y\u00fcksel-ve-\u0130hsan-Elia\u00e7\u0131k.jpg\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter  wp-image-5257\" alt=\"2013 Edip Y\u00fcksel ve \u0130hsan Elia\u00e7\u0131k\" src=\"http:\/\/19.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/2013-Edip-Y\u00fcksel-ve-\u0130hsan-Elia\u00e7\u0131k.jpg\" width=\"677\" height=\"451\" srcset=\"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2013\/06\/2013-Edip-Y\u00fcksel-ve-\u0130hsan-Elia\u00e7\u0131k.jpg 4896w, https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2013\/06\/2013-Edip-Y\u00fcksel-ve-\u0130hsan-Elia\u00e7\u0131k-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2013\/06\/2013-Edip-Y\u00fcksel-ve-\u0130hsan-Elia\u00e7\u0131k-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2013\/06\/2013-Edip-Y\u00fcksel-ve-\u0130hsan-Elia\u00e7\u0131k-1024x682.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2013\/06\/2013-Edip-Y\u00fcksel-ve-\u0130hsan-Elia\u00e7\u0131k-730x486.jpg 730w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 677px) 100vw, 677px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Haber: Osman Akyol<\/p>\n<p>Konusu \u201cKuran Meallerindeki \u00c7eviri Hatalar\u0131\u201d olan m\u00fcnazara, \u0130hsan Elia\u00e7\u0131k\u2019\u0131n moderat\u00f6rl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnde 13 \u015eubat 2013 \u00c7ar\u015famba g\u00fcn\u00fc saat 20.00\u2019de Fatih\u2019teki \u0130n\u015fa K\u00fclt\u00fcrevi\u2019nde yap\u0131ld\u0131. Konu\u015fmac\u0131lar; kendilerini \u201cmuvahhid\u201d olarak tan\u0131mlayan \u0130hsan Elia\u00e7\u0131k ve Edip Y\u00fcksel\u2019di.<\/p>\n<p>Edip Y\u00fcksel\u2019le tan\u0131\u015f\u0131kl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n seksen \u00f6ncesine kadar gitti\u011fini s\u00f6yleyen \u0130hsan Elia\u00e7\u0131k yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131\u015f konu\u015fmas\u0131nda, \u201cHem Edip Y\u00fcksel\u2019le hem de karde\u015fi Metin Y\u00fcksel\u2019le seksen \u00f6ncesinde Ak\u0131nc\u0131lar te\u015fkilat\u0131nda beraberdik. Metin ve Edip \u0130stanbul, biz Kayseri Ak\u0131nc\u0131lar\u0131ndand\u0131k. Metin Kayseri\u2019ye geldi\u011finde duvarlara \u201cS\u0131n\u0131rs\u0131z ve s\u0131n\u0131fs\u0131z \u0130slam toplumuna do\u011fru\u201d diye yaz\u0131lar yazar, \u0130ran devrimi afi\u015fleri yapard\u0131. Edip\u2019in yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u201cYolunda \u0130slam\u2019\u0131n karde\u015fler olal\u0131m\u201d adl\u0131 mar\u015flar\u0131 s\u00f6ylerdik. Kendisini takdir ediyor, \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131 \u00f6nemsiyorum.\u00a0\u00a0Lince u\u011fray\u0131p \u00f6tekile\u015ftirildi\u011fi bir zamanda yan yana foto\u011fraf vermekten \u00e7ekinmiyorum, vefan\u0131n gere\u011fi olarak g\u00f6r\u00fcyorum. Edip Y\u00fcksel\u2019le seminere gelmeden \u00f6nce g\u00fcnd\u00fcz S\u00fcleymaniye Vakf\u0131\u2019nda \u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc bir zirveye kat\u0131ld\u0131k. Edip, ben ve Abd\u00fclaziz Bay\u0131nd\u0131r. \u015eimdi,\u00a0\u00a0Edip\u2019le yirmi be\u015fer dakikal\u0131k birer konu\u015fma yapaca\u011f\u0131z, ard\u0131ndan m\u00fcnazara, soru-cevap \u015feklinde s\u00fcrecek\u201d dedi.<\/p>\n<p>Yakla\u015f\u0131k 40 dakika s\u00fcren konu\u015fmas\u0131nda Edip Y\u00fcksel a\u011f\u0131rl\u0131kl\u0131 olarak; 1986\u2019da Re\u015fat Halife ile tan\u0131\u015fma ser\u00fcvenini, bu tan\u0131\u015fma sonras\u0131nda ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 fikri d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fcm\u00fc ve T\u00fcrkiye \u0130slamc\u0131lar\u0131 taraf\u0131ndan d\u0131\u015flanmas\u0131n\u0131 ve nihayet Amerika\u2019ya ka\u00e7\u0131\u015f \u00f6yk\u00fcs\u00fcn\u00fc anlatt\u0131:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSeksen \u00f6ncesinde ate\u015fli bir S\u00fcnni idim. Hatta 1980\u2019de \u0130ran\u2019a gittim, orada dini liderlerle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcm. K\u00fcfe\u2019den geri d\u00f6nd\u00fcm, diyebilirim. 1986\u2019da bir tesad\u00fcf eseri Re\u015fat Halife ile tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. Kuran bana o g\u00fcn nazil oldu. O g\u00fcnden sonra hadis ve s\u00fcnneti reddettim. Bana o g\u00fcn k\u0131zanlar \u015fimdi Buhari\u2019nin ne kadar\u0131 sahih diye komisyon kuruyorlar. Beni de\u011fi\u015ftiren temel sebep Kuran\u2019\u0131n matematiksel mucizesi oldu. Benim \u2018Din nakil dini de\u011fil ak\u0131l dinidir!\u2019 diye bir slogan\u0131m var. Matematik insan\u0131 rasyonel d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmeye iter. Re\u015fat Halife ile 1986\u2019da \u0130slam Gen\u00e7lik Konferans\u0131\u2019nda tan\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. 19 mucizesinin mucidi Re\u015fat Halife\u2019dir. 1989\u2019da Amerika\u2019ya g\u00f6\u00e7t\u00fcm. Galile, matematik evrenin lisan\u0131d\u0131r, der. Pisagor, evrende her \u015feyin \u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fcn say\u0131lar oldu\u011funu, s\u00f6yler. Ben her zaman biraz \u015f\u00fcpheciyimdir. Seksende i\u00e7eri girdim. \u0130\u00e7erde Ak\u0131nc\u0131lar davas\u0131ndan yatan arkada\u015flarla beraberdik. Onlar\u0131 \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma gruplar\u0131na ay\u0131r\u0131p Kuran\u2019daki harfleri sayd\u0131rd\u0131m. Elifler Kuran\u2019a sonradan kondu\u011fu i\u00e7in onlar\u0131 saymad\u0131k tabi. Bu mucizeye kendim de bizzat \u015fahit oldum. Bizde maalesef kritik d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnme gelene\u011fi yok. Kuran\u2019\u0131 anlamak i\u00e7in iki \u015fey laz\u0131m: bir, ak\u0131ll\u0131 olmak; iki, Kuran yeterlidir, demek. Mufassal (tafsilatl\u0131) ve m\u00fcbin (a\u00e7\u0131k) oldu\u011funu Kuran kendisi s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor. Kat\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131m bir sempozyumda, Kuran anla\u015f\u0131lmaz, diye iddiada bulundular. Tefsir, hadis, siyer, kelam beynimizi kemiren birer Truva at\u0131 vir\u00fcs\u00fcd\u00fcr. Ge\u00e7ende bir ateist Facebook\u2019ta bir ayet payla\u015ft\u0131. Dedikoduyu kesin, diyen bir ayeti adam mealinde, dedikodu yapanlar\u0131 kesin, diye \u00e7evirmi\u015f. Felaket! Ateistler \u00e7ok yararl\u0131 b\u00f6yle durumlarda. Tabi aralar\u0131nda l\u00fcmpen ateistler de var. Aziz Nesin onlardan biridir mesela. Kuran hocas\u0131 d\u00f6vd\u00fc diye herif ateist olmu\u015f. Fakat Turan Dursun, entelekt\u00fcel bir ateisttir. \u00d6zellikle kad\u0131nlarla ilgili ve cezalarla ilgili ayetlerde \u00e7ok fazla tahrifat var. 4:34 ayeti bir \u00e7ok mealde hatal\u0131 \u00e7evrilmi\u015f T\u00fcrk\u00e7e\u2019ye. Ben y\u00fczde yetmi\u015f feministim. Y\u00fczde y\u00fcz feminizm aileyi par\u00e7al\u0131yor maalesef. Amerika\u2019da feministler \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma u\u011fruna \u00e7ocuk sahibi olam\u0131yorlar. T\u00fcrk\u00e7e\u2019ye \u2018kad\u0131nlar\u0131 d\u00f6v\u00fcn\u2019 diye \u00e7evrilen ayette ge\u00e7en \u2018darabe\u2019 s\u00f6zc\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fcn ba\u015fka bir s\u00fcr\u00fc anlam\u0131 var, getirip bunu kullan\u0131yorlar. Erkek egemen bir toplumuz ya\u2026 Kafam\u0131z hemen ona \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor. Bu \u00e7eviriyi \u00e7ok m\u00fcnaf\u0131k\u00e7a buluyorum ben. Yine \u2018d\u00f6rt kad\u0131nla evlenebilirsiniz\u2019 ayetinde de ayn\u0131 durum var. Orada dul kad\u0131nlardan d\u00f6rt tane alabilirsiniz, diyor. Bakire k\u0131z alabilirsiniz, demiyor. Tabi ki; koruma, yer temin etme, kad\u0131n\u0131n \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131 babas\u0131z b\u0131rakmama gibi nedenlerle\u2026 Afganistan\u2019da dedesi ya\u015f\u0131ndaki adamlar sekiz-on ya\u015f\u0131ndaki k\u0131zlarla evleniyorlar. B\u00f6yle tipler kendilerini misvakla, sar\u0131kla M\u00fcsl\u00fcman zannediyorlar. Madem s\u00fcnnete inan\u0131yorsunuz Muhammed Peygamber gibi 6 ya\u015f\u0131ndaki kad\u0131nla nikahlan\u0131n o zaman. Huruf-u mukattalarda da hatalar var. Onlar harf de\u011fil harf-rakam, yani rakam. Araplar o d\u00f6nemde, \u00f6zellikle t\u00fcccarlar, ebcet hesab\u0131 kullan\u0131yorlard\u0131. Ebcet hesab\u0131na g\u00f6re her harfin bir say\u0131sal de\u011feri var. Re\u015fat Halife, bilgisayar\u0131na Kuran\u2019\u0131 y\u00fckleyip harflerin frekanslar\u0131n\u0131 ara\u015ft\u0131r\u0131rken 1974\u2019te 19 mucizesini ke\u015ffediyor. Huruf-u mukatta harfleri Kuran\u2019a 19 mucizesini sa\u011flamak i\u00e7in konmu\u015f harflerdir, ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z ayet de\u011fildir. Kuran, Tanr\u0131\u2019n\u0131n keyfi bir dille matemati\u011fi i\u00e7 i\u00e7e ge\u00e7irdi\u011fi bir mucizedir.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Edip Y\u00fcksel\u2019den sonra konu\u015fma s\u0131ras\u0131 kendine gelen \u0130hsan Elia\u00e7\u0131k, kendi mealini \u201cya\u015fayan Kuran\u201d perspektifiyle yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yledi ve birka\u00e7 \u00f6rnek verdi:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cKuran meallerinde Allah\u2019\u0131n \u2018and olsun ki!\u2019 \u015feklinde g\u00fcne\u015fe, y\u0131ld\u0131za, tan yerine ve kendini k\u0131nayan nefse yemin etti\u011fini g\u00f6r\u00fcrs\u00fcn\u00fcz. Oysa yemin bir \u00fcst makam\u0131n tan\u0131kl\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00e7a\u011f\u0131r\u0131lmas\u0131d\u0131r. B\u00f6yle \u00e7evirince \u2018G\u00fcne\u015f\u2019e and olsun ki!\u2019 derken ha\u015fa Allah, G\u00fcne\u015f\u2019i y\u00fcceltmi\u015f oluyor. Ben bunlar\u0131 \u2018dile gelsin ki\u2019 diye \u00e7evirdim. Bence Allah bu ayetlerde \u2018intak\u2019 sanat\u0131n\u0131 uygulam\u0131\u015f. Elbette matematiksel \u00e7abay\u0131 (on dokuz mucizesini) \u00f6nemsiyorum, merakl\u0131s\u0131na delil, h\u00fcccet olabilir. Ama Kuran\u2019da her \u015fey vard\u0131r, demek bence yanl\u0131\u015f. Sonu\u00e7ta Kuran\u2019\u0131n tarihi de\u011fil, mesaj\u0131 \u00f6nemlidir, nihai noktada mesaj\u0131ndan\/manas\u0131ndan hesaba \u00e7ekilece\u011fiz. Bu nedenle mesaj\u0131 \u00f6rten Kur\u2019an \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131n esas meseleyi \u0131skalama tehlikesi vard\u0131r. Ben Kuran\u2019daki \u2018ibadet\u2019 kelimelerini \u2018kulluk\u2019 olarak \u00e7evirmedim. Arap\u00e7ada m\u00fcthi\u015f bir g\u0131rtlak foneti\u011fi var. \u0130badet, kulun yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 etti\u011fi \u015feyler, demektir. \u0130\u015f ve de\u011fer \u00fcretmektir. Namaz, oru\u00e7, hac anlam\u0131na gelmez. Bu sayd\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z \u015feylere ibadet demiyor Kuran, n\u00fcsuk diyor. Tekrarlanan hareketler demek. Din bir inan\u00e7 m\u0131d\u0131r, ya\u015fam m\u0131d\u0131r? Bu soruya mevzu anla\u015f\u0131ls\u0131n diye tek \u015f\u0131kl\u0131 cevab vereceksek, esasen din bir inan\u00e7 de\u011fil; ya\u015famd\u0131r. Ayd\u0131nlanma dini bir vicdan\/inan\u00e7 i\u015fi olarak tarif etti. Yayg\u0131n olan tan\u0131m bu ve bana g\u00f6re yanl\u0131\u015f. \u0130nan\u00e7 ve rit\u00fceller ya\u015fam\u0131 besler, b\u00f6yle bir ya\u015fam\u0131 kurmada teyid idici manevi dinamik olur ama ibadet kelimesini kar\u015f\u0131lamaz. \u0130badet ya\u015fam\u0131n i\u00e7inde yap\u0131l\u0131r. Ben inan\u0131yorum, diyen biri cennete giremez, ancak inanc\u0131 prati\u011fe d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fcrse girer. \u0130man\u0131n\u0131 ya\u015fam\u0131nda g\u00f6stereceksin. Mekke\u2019de inan\u00e7 ve rit\u00fcel tart\u0131\u015fmas\u0131 yoktu. B\u00fct\u00fcn sava\u015flar m\u00fclk y\u00fcz\u00fcnden oldu. Maalesef Kuran meallerinde ma\u00e7o bir bak\u0131\u015f a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131 var. Zenginler Kuran\u2019a m\u00fcdahale etmi\u015fler, tevil ve tefsirle Kuran\u2019\u0131n sinirleri al\u0131nm\u0131\u015f. Kuran\u2019daki cehennem tehditleri bir \u00f6fkeyi anlat\u0131yor, diptekilerin, a\u00e7lar\u0131n ve ezilmi\u015flerin \u00f6fkesini\u2026 Fussilet Suresi 10. ayette, e\u015fit\u00e7e payla\u015f\u0131n, diyor. Baz\u0131lar\u0131 bana, bunu b\u00f6yle \u00e7evirirsen kom\u00fcnizm olur, diyor. Gelirse gelsin. Ger\u00e7i Kuran sosyalist de\u011fildir. Onunki kendine hast\u0131r. Bu ayetten maksad\u0131n hayvanlar oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorlar. Hayvanlar i\u00e7in e\u015fit\u00e7e diyormu\u015f! \u201cS\u00e2ilin\u201d ne anlama geliyor Kur\u2019an\u2019da bir ara\u015ft\u0131r\u2026\u00a0\u00a0Bakara 219\u2019da da, neyi infak edece\u011fini soruyorlar, de ki: \u2018ihtiya\u00e7 fazlas\u0131n\u0131.\u2019 Arabistan\u2019daki kral\u0131 rahats\u0131z edecek bu ayeti adam bak\u0131n nas\u0131l \u00e7evirmi\u015f: Sana iyilik olarak ne yapaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 soruyorlar. De ki: \u2018\u0130nsanlar\u0131 affedin.\u2019 Al\u0131n size en kral meal! Bu ayeti b\u00f6yle \u00e7evirenlerden Hayrettin Karaman Hoca bize ayar \u00e7ekip iki \u00fc\u00e7 tane yaz\u0131 yazd\u0131. Ger\u00e7i o d\u00fczeltmi\u015f, hakk\u0131n\u0131 yemeyelim ama piyasada hala \u00f6yle olanlar var\u2026 Tevbe suresi 34 ve 35. ayetler M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar\u0131n ikbal ve rant zamanlar\u0131nda inmi\u015ftir. Peygamberimiz bu ayetler inince mescitte \u2018Kahrolsun para!\u2019 (alt\u0131n, g\u00fcm\u00fc\u015f) diye ba\u011f\u0131r\u0131r. Bu ayetin de bizimle ilgili olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorlar. M\u00fclk, kenz ve infak ile ilgili ayetlerin \u00e7o\u011fu ya nesholmu\u015f, ya \u00e7eviri yoluyla manas\u0131zla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015f ya da tefsir yoluyla sinirleri al\u0131nm\u0131\u015f vaziyette. Bir TV pro\u011fram\u0131nda beni tarihsellikle su\u00e7layan bir arkada\u015f, tuttu bu ayetin Yahudilerle ilgili oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yledi. Bizimle ilgili de\u011filmi\u015f. Ne oldu tarihselcilik de\u011fil mi \u015fimdi bu, en az\u0131ndan tutarl\u0131 olmak laz\u0131m.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>S\u00f6yle\u015fide daha sonra soru cevap b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcne ge\u00e7ildi.<\/p>\n<p><b>\u201cTevbe suresinde, \u2018M\u00fc\u015frikleri tuttu\u011funuz yerde \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fcn!\u2019 diye bir ayet var, ne diyeceksiniz?\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Edip Y\u00fcksel<\/b>-Kuran\u2019\u0131 harekesiz okuyunca o anlam \u00e7\u0131kmaz ama yine de \u015f\u00fcphe i\u00e7erisindeyim.<\/p>\n<p><b>\u0130hsan Elia\u00e7\u0131k<\/b>-Kuran \u00f6ld\u00fcrme konusunda hassast\u0131r. O ayet sava\u015f ortam\u0131 i\u00e7in s\u00f6ylenmi\u015ftir. Sava\u015f ortam\u0131nda d\u00fc\u015fmana \u00e7i\u00e7ek verecek de\u011filsiniz herhalde. Keza katl etkisiz hale getirmek anlam\u0131nda da kullan\u0131l\u0131r Kur\u2019an\u2019da. \u201cNefislerinizi katledin\u201d der mesela. Etkisiz hale getirmek demektir. O \u015fekilde de anla\u015f\u0131labilir.<\/p>\n<p><b>\u201cBir ayette, Alah\u2019tan ba\u015fka \u015fefaat\u00e7i yoktur, diyor; bir ba\u015fka ayette de, \u015funlar \u015funlar \u015fefaat\u00e7idir, diyor. Bir \u00e7eli\u015fki yok mu?\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>\u0130hsan Elia\u00e7\u0131k<\/b>&#8211; M\u00fc\u015frikler Lat\u2019\u0131n, Uzza\u2019n\u0131n ve Menat\u2019\u0131n \u015fefaat edece\u011fine inan\u0131yorlar, bunlar bizim \u015fefaat\u00e7ilerimiz diyorlard\u0131. Bu ne demek? Tahtadan ta\u015ftan putlar\u0131n \u015fefaat edece\u011fini s\u00f6ylemiyorlar, bilakis onlarla ifade edilen anlamlar\u0131n kendilerine arac\u0131 olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorlar. Yani otorite (<i>Lat<\/i>), g\u00fc\u00e7 (<i>Uzza<\/i>) ve para (<i>Menat<\/i>) bu d\u00fcnyada her kap\u0131y\u0131 a\u00e7t\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi, \u00f6b\u00fcr d\u00fcnyada da cennetin kap\u0131s\u0131 a\u00e7acak, bunlar\u0131n y\u00fcz\u00fc suyu h\u00fcrmetine \u015fefaat edilece\u011fiz diyorlar. Kur\u2019an bunu reddediyor. Hi\u00e7bir siyasi ve dini otorite (peygamber dahil), hi\u00e7bir g\u00fc\u00e7 ve hi\u00e7bir para, alt\u0131n servet vs. orada i\u015fe yaramayacak. S\u00f6z (<i>kavl<\/i>), karar (<i>emr<\/i>) ve t\u00fcm sahiplik (<i>m\u00fclk<\/i>) Allah\u2019\u0131n olacak diyor. Ancak kendisinden raz\u0131 olunan ve do\u011fruluk \u00fczere olan ki\u015fi m\u00fcstesna demek, ki\u015finin kendisi ba\u015fka birisi de\u011fil. Yani kendi do\u011fruluk, d\u00fcr\u00fcstl\u00fck ve Allah\u2019\u0131n raz\u0131 eden amelleriniz size \u015fefaat\u00e7i olabilir, \u015fefaat\u00e7ileriniz ancak ve sadece kendinizin do\u011frulu\u011fu ve d\u00fcr\u00fcstl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc olabilir, ba\u015fka hi\u00e7 kimse sizi kurtaramaz demek istiyor. Burada yanl\u0131\u015f olan \u201craz\u0131 olan ve do\u011fruluk \u00fczere olan kimse hari\u00e7\u201d derken ki\u015finin kendisinden ba\u015fkas\u0131n\u0131n (peygamber, veli) kastedildi\u011finin san\u0131lmas\u0131d\u0131r. Oysa istisna \u201cki\u015finin bizzat kendisinin raz\u0131 olunmu\u015f bir hayat s\u00fcrmesi, do\u011fruluk amellerini bizzat kendisinin g\u00f6stermi\u015f olmas\u0131 hari\u00e7\u201d manas\u0131ndad\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p><b>\u201cEdip Bey, on dokuz mucizesiyle nereye varmak istiyorsunuz?\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Edip Y\u00fcksel<\/b>-Baz\u0131lar\u0131 i\u015flerine gelmeyen ayetleri birbiri ile neshettiler. 19 mucizesi bunu bitiren bir mucizedir. Matemati\u011fin, akl\u0131n ve bilgisayar\u0131n zirvede oldu\u011fu bir zamanda Allah, gizledi\u011fi bu mucizesini meydana \u00e7\u0131kard\u0131, bu kadar. 19 mucizesi Kuran\u2019\u0131 koruyan bir say\u0131sal koddur.<\/p>\n<p><b>\u201cKuran Allah kelam\u0131 m\u0131?\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>\u0130hsan Elia\u00e7\u0131k<\/b>&#8211; Evet, ama olmasa da yine Kuran\u2019\u0131 okurdum. Kuran\u2019\u0131n sosyal i\u00e7eri\u011fi \u00f6nemli benim i\u00e7in. Bak\u0131n duvarlarda \u0130ncil\u2019den de ayetler var. Biz Allah\u2019\u0131n kitaplar\u0131 aras\u0131nda ayr\u0131m yapm\u0131yoruz. E\u011fer bir g\u00fcn; otorite (Lat) g\u00fc\u00e7 (Uzza) ve paray\u0131 (Menat) \u00f6ven bir ayet g\u00f6r\u00fcrsem-ki yok- Kuran okumay\u0131 b\u0131rak\u0131r\u0131m.<\/p>\n<p><b>\u201c\u0130hsan bey, M\u00fcddesir Suresi 19. ayetteki \u00e7evirinizi \u00e7ok fantastik buldum.\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>\u0130hsan Elia\u00e7\u0131k<\/b>&#8211; 19 ayeti M\u00fcddesir suresinde ge\u00e7er. M\u00fcddesir suresinin konusu, Mekke\u2019nin en b\u00fcy\u00fck zengini olan Velid bin Mu\u011fire\u2019nin isim verilmeden ele\u015ftirilmesidir. 11-13. ayette \u201c\u00d6n\u00fcne uzay\u0131p giden mallar ve o\u011fullar verdi\u011fim o adam\u0131 bana b\u0131rak\u201d denir, 42-44 ayette \u201cOnlara sizi ate\u015fe atan nedir denince salat etmezdik ve yoksulu doyurmazd\u0131k derler\u201d denir. Bu ayetler M\u00fcddesir suresinde ge\u00e7er. Bunlar\u0131 g\u00f6z ard\u0131 edip 30. ayette ge\u00e7en 19 rakam\u0131na tak\u0131lmay\u0131 do\u011fru bulmuyorum. Esas meseleyi \u0131skalar\u0131z o zaman. M\u00fc\u015frikler ate\u015fe at\u0131lacaklar\u0131n\u0131 duyunca alaya al\u0131p bizim adamlar\u0131m\u0131z daha \u00e7ok, tutar o 19 bek\u00e7iyi biz ate\u015fe atar\u0131z diye kat\u0131la kat\u0131l\u0131 g\u00fcld\u00fcler, onlara s\u00f6yleniyor. Onlar i\u00e7in imtihan vesilesidir,\u00a0\u00a0kalplerinde hastal\u0131k olanlar say\u0131lara tak\u0131l\u0131r b\u00f6yle deniliyor. 19 kelimesi \u00e7okluk belirtir. Arap mitolojisinde 19,7,40 \u00e7okluktan kinaye olarak kullan\u0131l\u0131yordu. Kuran\u2019\u0131n tarihi a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan durum b\u00f6yle. Oradaki 19\u2019u al\u0131p bir matematiksel dizili\u015f mucizesi \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131l\u0131yorsa, surenin esas konusunu arka plana atmamak kayd\u0131yla bug\u00fcn i\u00e7in yararl\u0131 olabilir, ona da pek so\u011fuk bakmam. Ama bu 19 i\u015fi Kur\u2019an\u2019\u0131n esas konusu olan Lehu\u2019l mulk\u00fc \u00f6rterse kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131m, desteklerse olumlu bulurum.<\/p>\n<p><b>\u201cEdip Bey, siz \u0130hsan Bey\u2019in yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 ibadet-n\u00fcsuk ayr\u0131m\u0131na kat\u0131l\u0131yor musunuz?\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Edip Y\u00fcksel<\/b>-\u0130badeti rit\u00fcele indirgemek bidatt\u0131r, ama rit\u00fcel de gereklidir diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum.<\/p>\n<p><b>\u201cMaide 51&#8217;le Bakara 62 \u00e7eli\u015fiyor mu?\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Edip Y\u00fcksel<\/b>-Ayetleri ba\u011flam\u0131ndan kopar\u0131rsan\u0131z \u00e7eli\u015fir tabi. O ayetleri ba\u015fka ayetlerle beraber d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fczde \u00e7eli\u015fmez.<\/p>\n<p><b>\u201cKuran\u2019da bir ayette, mirastan erkek \u00e7ocu\u011funa bir pay, k\u0131z \u00e7ocu\u011funa yar\u0131m pay verin, diyor. Bu bir \u00e7eli\u015fki midir, yoksa \u00e7eviri hatas\u0131 m\u0131?\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>\u0130hsan Elia\u00e7\u0131k<\/b>-Kuran alt\u0131 yerde de kad\u0131nlara pozitif ayr\u0131mc\u0131l\u0131k yap\u0131yor, onu niye g\u00f6rm\u00fcyorsunuz? O ayet indi\u011finde ilk defa kad\u0131na mirastan pay verildi\u011fini unutmayal\u0131m. O zaman\u0131n ko\u015fullar\u0131nda bu bir devrimdi. Bug\u00fcn i\u00e7in ihtiyac\u0131 olana g\u00f6re taksim edilmesi gerekir.<\/p>\n<p><b>Edip Y\u00fcksel<\/b>-Ben \u0130hsan\u2019a kat\u0131lm\u0131yorum. Allah burada net bir oran koymu\u015ftur. Ve bence de adil bir orand\u0131r. Bir defa erkekler evlenirken kad\u0131na ba\u015fl\u0131k paras\u0131 veriyorlar, ikincisi erkek evin ge\u00e7iminden sorumlu. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla bu oran adil\u2026 Bu ayetin bence hikmeti budur.<\/p>\n<p><b>\u0130hsan Elia\u00e7\u0131k<\/b>&#8211; Allah\u2019\u0131 b\u0131rak\u0131p Kuran\u2019a tapmamak gerekir. Kuran\u2019\u0131n metnini feti\u015fle\u015ftirmeyiniz. Aslolan mesaj\u0131d\u0131r. B\u00fcy\u00fck olan Allah\u2019t\u0131r, do\u011fad\u0131r. Kuran olmasa da insanl\u0131k do\u011fru yolu bulurdu. \u0130nsanl\u0131k vicdan\u0131 b\u00fcy\u00fck kriz anlar\u0131nda kendi yolunu bulabilecek kabiliyette yarat\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Nitekim Kur\u2019an\u2019da b\u00f6ylesi bir kriz an\u0131nda ortaya \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015ft\u0131.<\/p>\n<p><b>Edip Y\u00fcksel<\/b>-B\u00f6yle yakla\u015f\u0131rsan\u0131z Kuran h\u00fckm\u00fcn\u00fc yitirir. Kur\u2019an metni matematiksel dizili\u015fle korunmu\u015ftur. Bunu yabana atamay\u0131z.<\/p>\n<p><b>\u201cKur\u2019an \u00f6l\u00fcler kitab\u0131 haline getirildi?\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>\u0130hsan Elia\u00e7\u0131k<\/b>-\u0130statistiklere g\u00f6re T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de insanlar\u0131n y\u00fczde biri anlayarak, y\u00fczde doksan dokuzu da anlamayarak Kuran okuyormu\u015f. O y\u00fczde bir de, Allah bilir, gayrim\u00fcslimlerdir. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc gayr\u0131 M\u00fcslimler okursa \u00f6l\u00fclerinin arkas\u0131ndan Tevrat, \u0130ncil okur. Kur\u2019an\u2019\u0131 da anlamak i\u00e7in okur.\u00a0\u00a0Kur\u2019an\u2019\u0131 \u00f6l\u00fcler kitab\u0131 olmaktan bir kurtarabilirsek \u00e7ok g\u00fczel geli\u015fmeler olacak in\u015fallah. S\u00f6yle\u015fimizi burada bitiriyoruz, aya\u011f\u0131n\u0131za sa\u011fl\u0131k. Bu t\u00fcrden s\u00f6yle\u015filere devam etmek istiyoruz, ba\u015fka bir m\u00fcnazarada g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmek \u00fczere\u2026<\/p>\n<p><b><i>Not: Bu haber \u0130hsan Elia\u00e7\u0131k taraf\u0131ndan d\u00fczeltilmi\u015f olup videosu \u00e7ok yak\u0131nda adilmedya.com sitesinde yay\u0131nlanacakt\u0131r\u2026<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u2018Kur\u2019an \u00f6l\u00fcler kitab\u0131 haline getirildi!\u2019 Kur\u2019an \u00e7evirileri \u00fczerine m\u00fcnazara yap\u0131ld\u0131\u2026 14 \u015eubat 2013 Haber: Osman Akyol Konusu \u201cKuran Meallerindeki \u00c7eviri Hatalar\u0131\u201d olan m\u00fcnazara, \u0130hsan Elia\u00e7\u0131k\u2019\u0131n moderat\u00f6rl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnde 13 \u015eubat 2013 \u00c7ar\u015famba g\u00fcn\u00fc saat 20.00\u2019de Fatih\u2019teki \u0130n\u015fa K\u00fclt\u00fcrevi\u2019nde yap\u0131ld\u0131. 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Edip Y\u00fcksel\u2019le tan\u0131\u015f\u0131kl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n seksen \u00f6ncesine kadar gitti\u011fini s\u00f6yleyen &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/edip-eliacik\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading &lsquo;Kur\u2019an \u00f6l\u00fcler kitab\u0131 haline getirildi&rsquo; &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,1270],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5256","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-edipyuksel","category-tartismalar-soylesiler"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5256","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5256"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5256\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5258,"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5256\/revisions\/5258"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5256"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5256"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/19.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5256"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}